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so when did you kind of start

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taking on this concern about

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the breakdown of higher education well i

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think my first

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uh triad it was a book i wrote that was

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called against deconstruction

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a deconstruction was what seemed to me

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at the time a

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an intellectually very flawed movement

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uh in the humanities and social sciences

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so i wrote a book basically proving that

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it was complete nonsense from start to

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finish

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uh and um and what is that sorry what is

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the concept of deconstruction

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well deconstruction is basically

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it's a bully it's such a woolly movement

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it's difficult to actually you know make

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it coherent

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that was one of its problems but i mean

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essentially ideas like there's no such

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thing as truth

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uh that everything once you once you

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analyze it it falls to pieces

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uh and so there's no distinction between

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truth and falsehood

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and so on um and the same is true of

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meaning

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uh would seem to mean things but

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actually they mean something different

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if you look at them hard enough and so

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on

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it was the first stage of the pulling

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the academic world down into a morass of

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just opinion and uh

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and emotionalism and away from a logical

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thinking and

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intelligence and

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by the way you should uh if you can look

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up into the um

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camera yeah there we go so how do you

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relate

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that deconstruction movement into what

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we're seeing today

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well i think we've moved on from that i

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mean i think what that did was demolish

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what we had in in the academic world

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which is a coherent intellectual

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and on the ruins of that i mean which

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you know this deconstruction was like a

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demolition of the old

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on the on the ruins of that was built

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political leftism as a movement that now

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and um today you talk about

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you know i i read the beginnings of the

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books and and

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you know what we've been seeing as far

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as the violence on campuses

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and uh anytime a conservative speaker

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comes to speak

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and now we're seeing that violence on

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the streets of our cities

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yeah you see a correlation between those

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two oh absolutely yeah

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i wrote a piece for the wall street

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journal about a month ago on this

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and there's no doubt in my mind that uh

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there's been a very long campaign by the

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radical left to take over

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the college campuses and they've now

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succeeded

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and now the next stage is to export

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into the wider world so so on campus

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you have kids learning that there's only

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and that's the radical left way and then

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they go home they they leave the campus

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and in that outside world they take with

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them that attitude

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that that anyone who doesn't think their

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is an evil that they mustn't tolerate

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on campus is being exported now to

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the wider campus the weather culture

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and that's what we now call the cancel

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everything that isn't as the radical

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left wants it is cancelled

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so you wrote about this a bit as far as

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whether this is organized or not i know

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in in the book

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the radical views of the professors

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at these universities yeah but

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don't you think there's also some

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outside organization

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um i guess there's always got to be an

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interchange between the canvas and the

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half a century ago the radical left

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that it could never succeed at the

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which was true he couldn't uh and it

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to take over the universities to seize

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control of the universities

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they actually said this in a report 1962

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century to do it

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center professors for every two

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right of center now that that still

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gives you a pretty good debate i mean

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the figure was five to one five left to

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very steady very there's no way around

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this was planned this is deliberate this

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is a campaign

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now but it's worse than 13 to 1 because

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um the details of the latest studies

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that's right but they're all programmed

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the kids that go to campus they live in

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that it's not just wrong or logically

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it is these are bad people if they hold

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organizations for the kids pick up the

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they've got to do right by the world and

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brainwashing that goes on on campuses

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that's right that's right and when so

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international coordination where do we

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very well healed people who are very

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a a a culture that

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well i think the george floyd protests

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it was it was you know here is a

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singular incident in a uh

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involving one individual yeah and

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they're protesting it around the world

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yeah and and they're claiming that it is

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wide pattern and that's just the tip of

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the iceberg and so on

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uh as you say it's one one guy and

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the the question that someone needs to

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ask them is

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if it's part of a wider much wider

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why weren't you in the streets before

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george floyd's death

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i mean if if it's a big wide pattern if

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it's everywhere

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why won't you protest to get long before

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died and the answer to that of course is

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they had to find a case and it took them

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a long time to find a case i mean 2014

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to 2010 six whole years yeah trayvon

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martin which ended up not being

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plenty of potential

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examples but this one appears to really

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be a good one where it really

293
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is clear that you know the police

294
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officer acted inappropriately

295
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that's right it's really clear this time

296
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now if they have to wait

297
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all those years and they're searching

298
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for a good case they

299
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they with trayvon martin they can't find

300
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it with michael brown they can't find it

301
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and so on there's something wrong here

302
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right i mean they shouldn't have had to

303
00:12:04,230 --> 00:12:01,760
wait all those years well

304
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not to mention professor that um there's

305
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still

306
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zero evidence that it was racially

307
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motivated

308
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that's right that's right and and the

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the

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suggests that he was resisting arrest

311
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which at least started off the physical

312
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altercation between the cops but my

313
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point is you can have police brutality

314
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without it being racist police

315
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exactly so i'm willing to stipulate that

316
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this was police brutality and

317
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particularly furthermore the police

318
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brutality is a is a problem

319
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um but it's a problem for all races and

320
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in this particular case

321
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i'm not aware of any evidence that

322
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demonstrates that this police brutality

323
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was racially motivated

324
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i agree i agree but it

325
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it this is a brilliant strategy by the

326
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radicals

327
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to to assert that there's systemic

328
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racism in america

329
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that america was founded on racism

330
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via slavery and

331
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and there's white privilege so anything

332
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that whites have achieved

333
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they don't deserve and should be taken

334
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away from them

335
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and you can discredit the entire system

336
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as a racist system that needs to be

337
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brought down

338
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and and you and you label it black lives

339
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matter which nobody can disagree with

340
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and you're often running toward a

341
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revolution

342
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that's right the the goal you're right

343
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the the goal is revolution and the

344
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question is how they're going to get

345
00:13:41,670 --> 00:13:36,079
there

346
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by quoting karl marx that's not going to

347
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fly

348
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the one thing that they can use

349
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to try and prove that our society is

350
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rotten

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through and through is racism

352
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now they don't i don't honestly think

353
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that black lives matter the movement

354
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doesn't care really very much about

355
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black deaths because

356
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the result of what they've been doing

357
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discrediting the police is that

358
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as you know black deaths in chicago and

359
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so on have

360
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skyrocketed and if they really were

361
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concerned

362
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to minimize black death state of they'd

363
00:14:20,790 --> 00:14:18,240
have done something about that

364
00:14:21,990 --> 00:14:20,800
but what they're really after is

365
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persuading

366
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the american citizen that is culture

367
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is rotten through and through and race

368
00:14:34,470 --> 00:14:31,760
is the one issue they know they

369
00:14:36,949 --> 00:14:34,480
they might be able to use and exploit

370
00:14:40,790 --> 00:14:36,959
there are no other issues they can use

371
00:14:42,550 --> 00:14:40,800
um economic issues

372
00:14:43,990 --> 00:14:42,560
they're dead on arrival with those i

373
00:14:47,269 --> 00:14:44,000
mean uh um

374
00:14:50,710 --> 00:14:47,279
this is this is clearly a very

375
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uh a very affluent culture people

376
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even even people at the bottom end of

377
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the scale

378
00:14:58,949 --> 00:14:57,040
barely count as poverty stricken by

379
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world standards

380
00:15:03,590 --> 00:15:01,440
so you're not going to get a revolution

381
00:15:05,829 --> 00:15:03,600
based on marx's ideas you're not going

382
00:15:09,590 --> 00:15:05,839
to get a revolution based on

383
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socialist ideas but that's the one

384
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way that the radical left chooses to

385
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pursue

386
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to try and persuade everyone that this

387
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is

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society

389
00:15:24,230 --> 00:15:22,639
yeah and i and i do think it's it's semi

390
00:15:25,509 --> 00:15:24,240
brilliant and you can see how they've

391
00:15:28,389 --> 00:15:25,519
changed strategies because

392
00:15:29,350 --> 00:15:28,399
occupy wall street yeah was the strategy

393
00:15:31,749 --> 00:15:29,360
10 years ago

394
00:15:33,269 --> 00:15:31,759
yeah nowhere yeah it got nowhere and to

395
00:15:34,949 --> 00:15:33,279
your point that was kind of trying to

396
00:15:36,550 --> 00:15:34,959
sell socialism that we need to

397
00:15:38,069 --> 00:15:36,560
take from the rich and give to the poor

398
00:15:41,509 --> 00:15:38,079
and and this and that

399
00:15:43,269 --> 00:15:41,519
but but getting people to rally behind

400
00:15:44,710 --> 00:15:43,279
the idea of racism i mean first of all

401
00:15:46,310 --> 00:15:44,720
there's lots of good people that have no

402
00:15:47,030 --> 00:15:46,320
idea what black lives matter is really

403
00:15:49,350 --> 00:15:47,040
about

404
00:15:51,189 --> 00:15:49,360
and they're they're buying into this

405
00:15:53,749 --> 00:15:51,199
because they want to demonstrate that

406
00:15:55,749 --> 00:15:53,759
hey i'm not racist and i absolutely am

407
00:15:57,110 --> 00:15:55,759
against racism i mean we're all against

408
00:16:00,230 --> 00:15:57,120
racism

409
00:16:00,470 --> 00:16:00,240
uh we all believe black lives matter so

410
00:16:02,470 --> 00:16:00,480
it's

411
00:16:03,749 --> 00:16:02,480
easy thing to get everybody to sign on

412
00:16:06,629 --> 00:16:03,759
to um

413
00:16:08,310 --> 00:16:06,639
but it's the the radical part where it

414
00:16:10,310 --> 00:16:08,320
says as you point out

415
00:16:11,829 --> 00:16:10,320
it means that our society's rotten to

416
00:16:13,189 --> 00:16:11,839
the core and

417
00:16:15,749 --> 00:16:13,199
everything needs to change everything

418
00:16:16,629 --> 00:16:15,759
needs to be overturned and that includes

419
00:16:19,430 --> 00:16:16,639
the founding

420
00:16:20,550 --> 00:16:19,440
the founders our history the

421
00:16:22,470 --> 00:16:20,560
constitution

422
00:16:24,389 --> 00:16:22,480
the declaration of independence the

423
00:16:25,990 --> 00:16:24,399
whole thing needs to be i mean that's

424
00:16:27,590 --> 00:16:26,000
where they're going with this that's

425
00:16:29,829 --> 00:16:27,600
right that's right

426
00:16:30,949 --> 00:16:29,839
and the racism is a vehicle the best

427
00:16:33,030 --> 00:16:30,959
vehicle they have

428
00:16:34,230 --> 00:16:33,040
they think to get there they've tried

429
00:16:36,310 --> 00:16:34,240
others

430
00:16:37,350 --> 00:16:36,320
they don't work as you say the occupy

431
00:16:39,670 --> 00:16:37,360
wall street think

432
00:16:41,829 --> 00:16:39,680
doesn't work the notion that there's

433
00:16:44,790 --> 00:16:41,839
widespread poverty in inequality

434
00:16:46,470 --> 00:16:44,800
doesn't really work because uh you know

435
00:16:48,230 --> 00:16:46,480
recently we had the lowest black

436
00:16:49,990 --> 00:16:48,240
unemployment in the history of the

437
00:16:53,910 --> 00:16:50,000
country

438
00:16:55,509 --> 00:16:53,920
you can't very well mount a challenge to

439
00:16:56,949 --> 00:16:55,519
the economic order

440
00:16:59,030 --> 00:16:56,959
when those are the conditions you're

441
00:17:01,189 --> 00:16:59,040
facing but racism

442
00:17:02,470 --> 00:17:01,199
that's the one issue that they think

443
00:17:05,990 --> 00:17:02,480
they could

444
00:17:08,309 --> 00:17:06,000
use as their vehicle i don't think

445
00:17:09,029 --> 00:17:08,319
honestly myself they care very much

446
00:17:11,270 --> 00:17:09,039
about

447
00:17:13,350 --> 00:17:11,280
what the vehicle is i think they care

448
00:17:15,829 --> 00:17:13,360
about the result which is

449
00:17:17,510 --> 00:17:15,839
revolution yeah well what we know about

450
00:17:19,110 --> 00:17:17,520
the leaders frankly the leaders are more

451
00:17:21,350 --> 00:17:19,120
concerned about lgbt

452
00:17:22,309 --> 00:17:21,360
issues than they are race issues if you

453
00:17:24,230 --> 00:17:22,319
read about

454
00:17:25,669 --> 00:17:24,240
these the three women that have founded

455
00:17:28,150 --> 00:17:25,679
it um yeah

456
00:17:30,950 --> 00:17:28,160
i think two of them are members are

457
00:17:33,430 --> 00:17:30,960
members of lgbt

458
00:17:36,630 --> 00:17:33,440
and that i think uh all of them have

459
00:17:38,070 --> 00:17:36,640
marxist training so you just have to

460
00:17:39,830 --> 00:17:38,080
marxism was the one thing that was

461
00:17:41,830 --> 00:17:39,840
common to all of them

462
00:17:43,350 --> 00:17:41,840
right and it's the one thing they don't

463
00:17:44,950 --> 00:17:43,360
want to make

464
00:17:46,789 --> 00:17:44,960
front and center because they know it

465
00:17:49,590 --> 00:17:46,799
doesn't sell

466
00:17:50,390 --> 00:17:49,600
so they're duping lots of people so far

467
00:17:53,270 --> 00:17:50,400
and they're

468
00:17:54,789 --> 00:17:53,280
um duping corporations i think it was

469
00:17:56,789 --> 00:17:54,799
bank of america

470
00:17:58,230 --> 00:17:56,799
that gave a billion dollars to black

471
00:18:00,710 --> 00:17:58,240
lives matter

472
00:18:01,350 --> 00:18:00,720
um you've got apple has given a hundred

473
00:18:05,190 --> 00:18:01,360
million

474
00:18:08,230 --> 00:18:05,200
these guys

475
00:18:10,070 --> 00:18:08,240
i mean these companies recognize

476
00:18:12,230 --> 00:18:10,080
what what they what this guy's really

477
00:18:14,230 --> 00:18:12,240
bad i mean they're gonna come

478
00:18:15,430 --> 00:18:14,240
for tim cook they're going to come for

479
00:18:16,630 --> 00:18:15,440
jeff bezos

480
00:18:18,789 --> 00:18:16,640
they're going to come knocking on your

481
00:18:20,870 --> 00:18:18,799
door yeah saying

482
00:18:21,830 --> 00:18:20,880
get out of this house this is our house

483
00:18:24,070 --> 00:18:21,840
yes

484
00:18:25,909 --> 00:18:24,080
that's what marxists do that's what all

485
00:18:27,750 --> 00:18:25,919
revolutions do

486
00:18:30,150 --> 00:18:27,760
rich people in revolutions get the hell

487
00:18:34,870 --> 00:18:32,310
no but you're right this is this is the

488
00:18:39,350 --> 00:18:34,880
emphasis we need to see

489
00:18:41,669 --> 00:18:39,360
that their real concern is revolution

490
00:18:42,390 --> 00:18:41,679
and race is a way of getting there

491
00:18:44,630 --> 00:18:42,400
they're not

492
00:18:45,830 --> 00:18:44,640
really very concerned about race per se

493
00:18:47,830 --> 00:18:45,840
i think

494
00:18:48,950 --> 00:18:47,840
so tell me what you observed in your

495
00:18:51,270 --> 00:18:48,960
years uh

496
00:18:52,870 --> 00:18:51,280
teaching and so on and kind of the

497
00:18:55,990 --> 00:18:52,880
progression

498
00:18:58,070 --> 00:18:56,000
of things getting more and more leftist

499
00:18:59,510 --> 00:18:58,080
on the campus through you know anecdotes

500
00:19:00,150 --> 00:18:59,520
or however you want to describe it to us

501
00:19:04,150 --> 00:19:00,160
based on

502
00:19:07,669 --> 00:19:04,160
how you observed it living it well i saw

503
00:19:08,549 --> 00:19:07,679
such a rising tide i mean year by year

504
00:19:11,590 --> 00:19:08,559
there were

505
00:19:15,190 --> 00:19:11,600
more radical leftists on campus

506
00:19:19,029 --> 00:19:15,200
uh there were i think two

507
00:19:20,950 --> 00:19:19,039
big episodes but after all uh you know

508
00:19:22,070 --> 00:19:20,960
this plan i was describing that that

509
00:19:26,470 --> 00:19:22,080
they

510
00:19:30,070 --> 00:19:26,480
port huron statement 1962

511
00:19:32,630 --> 00:19:30,080
that plan was uh 58 years old

512
00:19:33,830 --> 00:19:32,640
and uh just the fact they had a plan

513
00:19:35,430 --> 00:19:33,840
doesn't mean they were going to get

514
00:19:37,350 --> 00:19:35,440
anywhere i mean

515
00:19:39,430 --> 00:19:37,360
at the time they wrote it through only

516
00:19:41,430 --> 00:19:39,440
about 200 of them

517
00:19:42,710 --> 00:19:41,440
and everybody laughed at them including

518
00:19:45,669 --> 00:19:42,720
me i have to

519
00:19:47,350 --> 00:19:45,679
regret now uh because they seemed a sad

520
00:19:49,830 --> 00:19:47,360
little bunch of uh

521
00:19:51,270 --> 00:19:49,840
totally unrealistic people would we

522
00:19:52,230 --> 00:19:51,280
recognize any of the names of these

523
00:19:56,310 --> 00:19:52,240
people

524
00:19:59,430 --> 00:19:56,320
tom hayden um

525
00:20:06,470 --> 00:20:01,029
most of them are gone now people like

526
00:20:09,990 --> 00:20:06,480
todd gitlin um

527
00:20:13,270 --> 00:20:10,000
yeah um yeah we just said uh

528
00:20:14,390 --> 00:20:13,280
david horowitz on david i don't know

529
00:20:17,669 --> 00:20:14,400
whether david was

530
00:20:20,230 --> 00:20:17,679
part of that group that wrote that uh

531
00:20:21,990 --> 00:20:20,240
uh that manifesto certainly he's you

532
00:20:24,149 --> 00:20:22,000
know pretty soon changed sides as you

533
00:20:26,950 --> 00:20:24,159
know and now is a staunch

534
00:20:28,149 --> 00:20:26,960
opponent of of everything uh that's

535
00:20:31,190 --> 00:20:28,159
going on

536
00:20:35,990 --> 00:20:31,200
so so this plan um can people still

537
00:20:39,909 --> 00:20:39,430
anyway they had two fantastic pieces of

538
00:20:41,510 --> 00:20:39,919
luck

539
00:20:43,270 --> 00:20:41,520
without which they wouldn't have gone

540
00:20:48,070 --> 00:20:43,280
anywhere because let's face it

541
00:20:50,390 --> 00:20:48,080
america's on the whole a happy society a

542
00:20:51,190 --> 00:20:50,400
society where on the whole people have

543
00:20:53,750 --> 00:20:51,200
been quite

544
00:20:55,430 --> 00:20:53,760
pleased with their lives with their i

545
00:20:57,270 --> 00:20:55,440
mean they look at other countries and

546
00:20:58,630 --> 00:20:57,280
it's clear they're better off than most

547
00:21:02,070 --> 00:20:58,640
other countries

548
00:21:05,669 --> 00:21:02,080
but there was one the first stroke of

549
00:21:10,390 --> 00:21:05,679
fantastic good luck they had was

550
00:21:13,669 --> 00:21:10,400
the fact that 1965 to 1975

551
00:21:16,390 --> 00:21:13,679
those 10 years a critical 10 years

552
00:21:18,710 --> 00:21:16,400
two things happened and if the two

553
00:21:21,029 --> 00:21:18,720
things hadn't happened at the same time

554
00:21:24,310 --> 00:21:21,039
that it got nowhere the first of them

555
00:21:26,870 --> 00:21:24,320
was the vietnam war

556
00:21:27,750 --> 00:21:26,880
and in that time the campuses were

557
00:21:31,510 --> 00:21:27,760
roiled by

558
00:21:33,270 --> 00:21:31,520
the fact that the kids were very angry

559
00:21:35,990 --> 00:21:33,280
about the fact they're being drafted to

560
00:21:38,310 --> 00:21:36,000
a war that no one really understood

561
00:21:40,149 --> 00:21:38,320
and it was not clear i mean the

562
00:21:42,230 --> 00:21:40,159
government was not terribly forthcoming

563
00:21:44,149 --> 00:21:42,240
about what the hell was going on

564
00:21:45,909 --> 00:21:44,159
and whether you're for or against the

565
00:21:47,990 --> 00:21:45,919
vietnam war in retrospect the

566
00:21:49,990 --> 00:21:48,000
the fact of the matter is the campuses

567
00:21:51,750 --> 00:21:50,000
were full of angry young people who

568
00:21:54,549 --> 00:21:51,760
didn't want to be drafted

569
00:21:55,270 --> 00:21:54,559
and so political radicalism that is to

570
00:21:58,390 --> 00:21:55,280
say

571
00:22:01,510 --> 00:21:58,400
a political sentiment where kids are

572
00:22:02,789 --> 00:22:01,520
very critical of the honesty and decency

573
00:22:04,549 --> 00:22:02,799
of the government of their own

574
00:22:07,270 --> 00:22:04,559
government that was

575
00:22:08,870 --> 00:22:07,280
rampant in those 10 years now that's

576
00:22:12,149 --> 00:22:08,880
that's the first thing

577
00:22:12,870 --> 00:22:12,159
about that period 65 75 but here's the

578
00:22:15,909 --> 00:22:12,880
other thing

579
00:22:18,950 --> 00:22:15,919
about it which is it's tragic

580
00:22:23,430 --> 00:22:18,960
that this happened as well

581
00:22:24,789 --> 00:22:23,440
65 was the just about the year when the

582
00:22:29,350 --> 00:22:24,799
baby boomers

583
00:22:31,909 --> 00:22:29,360
came of age now the end of world war ii

584
00:22:32,630 --> 00:22:31,919
servicemen come back from the war and

585
00:22:39,669 --> 00:22:32,640
they

586
00:22:41,909 --> 00:22:39,679
for the whole of the war and so the

587
00:22:44,470 --> 00:22:41,919
birth rate goes up because people

588
00:22:45,909 --> 00:22:44,480
you know have families again that

589
00:22:49,070 --> 00:22:45,919
they've been putting off

590
00:22:52,230 --> 00:22:49,080
so huge increase in the birth rate

591
00:22:55,669 --> 00:22:52,240
1945 to 55 and

592
00:22:59,350 --> 00:22:55,679
so 65 is the time when this

593
00:23:00,470 --> 00:22:59,360
huge boom in the population hits college

594
00:23:05,190 --> 00:23:00,480
age

595
00:23:09,350 --> 00:23:05,200
and for so from 65 to 75

596
00:23:11,510 --> 00:23:09,360
you go from in 65 4 million students in

597
00:23:14,630 --> 00:23:11,520
higher education

598
00:23:16,789 --> 00:23:14,640
by 75 you've got 9 million

599
00:23:17,830 --> 00:23:16,799
students in higher education so in other

600
00:23:21,510 --> 00:23:17,840
words

601
00:23:24,149 --> 00:23:21,520
you've all you've doubled and then some

602
00:23:26,390 --> 00:23:24,159
so think about it this way the number of

603
00:23:31,110 --> 00:23:26,400
professors in the country

604
00:23:34,630 --> 00:23:31,120
in 65 you have to find that number

605
00:23:37,029 --> 00:23:34,640
all over again to hire

606
00:23:38,310 --> 00:23:37,039
to handle the increase in the size of

607
00:23:39,909 --> 00:23:38,320
academia

608
00:23:43,029 --> 00:23:39,919
and then some more you know in other

609
00:23:47,269 --> 00:23:43,039
words it's a 125 percent increase

610
00:23:50,390 --> 00:23:47,279
now so there's a mad rush to hire

611
00:23:53,590 --> 00:23:50,400
new professors and that cohort

612
00:23:56,470 --> 00:23:53,600
65 to 75 hires they

613
00:23:58,789 --> 00:23:56,480
quickly outnumber all the other

614
00:24:02,230 --> 00:23:58,799
professors in the country

615
00:24:04,950 --> 00:24:02,240
and where do you find them you find them

616
00:24:05,590 --> 00:24:04,960
on the campuses graduate students and

617
00:24:09,830 --> 00:24:05,600
they've been

618
00:24:13,110 --> 00:24:09,840
radicalized by the vietnam war so

619
00:24:16,630 --> 00:24:13,120
very suddenly a profession

620
00:24:19,510 --> 00:24:16,640
the academic teachers that had a strong

621
00:24:21,830 --> 00:24:19,520
professional ethic that you should never

622
00:24:25,190 --> 00:24:21,840
let politics interfere with

623
00:24:29,190 --> 00:24:25,200
the truth as as you know an academic

624
00:24:33,830 --> 00:24:29,200
teacher sees it uh you suddenly have

625
00:24:37,430 --> 00:24:33,840
that professional ethic swamped

626
00:24:40,870 --> 00:24:37,440
by a huge cohort of new professors

627
00:24:44,070 --> 00:24:40,880
who are inclined towards left radicalism

628
00:24:44,950 --> 00:24:44,080
now let's suppose for example that the

629
00:24:47,990 --> 00:24:44,960
baby boom

630
00:24:50,230 --> 00:24:48,000
hadn't been there then

631
00:24:53,510 --> 00:24:50,240
radicals would have been hired in small

632
00:24:55,990 --> 00:24:53,520
numbers from 65 to 75

633
00:24:56,630 --> 00:24:56,000
they'd have been absorbed by the

634
00:25:02,950 --> 00:24:56,640
profession

635
00:25:04,310 --> 00:25:02,960
the restrictions on what they can do in

636
00:25:07,269 --> 00:25:04,320
the classroom

637
00:25:08,950 --> 00:25:07,279
but because they arrive in huge numbers

638
00:25:09,430 --> 00:25:08,960
they've arrived in big enough numbers

639
00:25:12,630 --> 00:25:09,440
they can

640
00:25:16,710 --> 00:25:12,640
change that professional ethic so

641
00:25:18,070 --> 00:25:16,720
by 75 the profession of academic

642
00:25:19,909 --> 00:25:18,080
teachers

643
00:25:21,190 --> 00:25:19,919
looked very very different to what it

644
00:25:24,470 --> 00:25:21,200
was in 65

645
00:25:26,070 --> 00:25:24,480
and those radicals who in 1962 looked

646
00:25:29,029 --> 00:25:26,080
very unrealistic

647
00:25:30,549 --> 00:25:29,039
and very full-on and you know hopeless

648
00:25:33,750 --> 00:25:30,559
their course was hopeless

649
00:25:35,269 --> 00:25:33,760
it suddenly wasn't by 75 they had a real

650
00:25:39,430 --> 00:25:35,279
toehold in the universities

651
00:25:41,990 --> 00:25:39,440
a big toehold that change in

652
00:25:42,870 --> 00:25:42,000
professional ethics sure rings a bell

653
00:25:46,149 --> 00:25:42,880
when you

654
00:25:48,710 --> 00:25:46,159
yeah

655
00:25:49,430 --> 00:25:48,720
journalistic ethics are out the window

656
00:25:53,190 --> 00:25:49,440
yeah

657
00:25:55,350 --> 00:25:53,200
well these people now as you say

658
00:25:56,310 --> 00:25:55,360
change the ethics now then there's a

659
00:25:58,149 --> 00:25:56,320
second wave

660
00:25:59,909 --> 00:25:58,159
that comes up which is all to do with

661
00:26:02,710 --> 00:25:59,919
civil rights you know

662
00:26:03,830 --> 00:26:02,720
by about 1977 affirmative action gets

663
00:26:06,950 --> 00:26:03,840
going big time

664
00:26:08,470 --> 00:26:06,960
on college campuses and there's a big

665
00:26:12,149 --> 00:26:08,480
clamor to hire

666
00:26:14,070 --> 00:26:12,159
more women more minorities as professors

667
00:26:15,669 --> 00:26:14,080
the problem is that the people doing the

668
00:26:17,990 --> 00:26:15,679
clamoring are

669
00:26:20,070 --> 00:26:18,000
mostly the radicals i mean because they

670
00:26:22,230 --> 00:26:20,080
see as we've said before

671
00:26:23,510 --> 00:26:22,240
a few minutes ago they see an

672
00:26:25,909 --> 00:26:23,520
opportunity here

673
00:26:27,750 --> 00:26:25,919
to hire more radicals and sure enough

674
00:26:28,870 --> 00:26:27,760
almost all those new people that were

675
00:26:30,870 --> 00:26:28,880
hired

676
00:26:32,630 --> 00:26:30,880
on the basis that they they were

677
00:26:34,789 --> 00:26:32,640
minorities or women

678
00:26:35,909 --> 00:26:34,799
they were disproportionately radical in

679
00:26:39,029 --> 00:26:35,919
their in their

680
00:26:43,110 --> 00:26:39,039
attitudes and so

681
00:26:45,990 --> 00:26:43,120
by about 1990

682
00:26:46,710 --> 00:26:46,000
you've already reached a stage where the

683
00:26:49,990 --> 00:26:46,720
academy

684
00:26:51,909 --> 00:26:50,000
is probably lost it took it took some

685
00:26:54,710 --> 00:26:51,919
time to filter out because

686
00:26:56,230 --> 00:26:54,720
through retirements the remaining people

687
00:26:58,630 --> 00:26:56,240
with integrity

688
00:26:59,990 --> 00:26:58,640
but slowly you know the numbers keep

689
00:27:02,630 --> 00:27:00,000
building up

690
00:27:03,750 --> 00:27:02,640
but without those two incidents i mean

691
00:27:05,990 --> 00:27:03,760
without

692
00:27:07,430 --> 00:27:06,000
the vietnam war coinciding with the baby

693
00:27:10,070 --> 00:27:07,440
boomers

694
00:27:11,350 --> 00:27:10,080
and without the civil rights movement

695
00:27:13,750 --> 00:27:11,360
hitting the campuses

696
00:27:15,430 --> 00:27:13,760
with affirmative action the radicals

697
00:27:18,070 --> 00:27:15,440
wouldn't have had a chance

698
00:27:19,430 --> 00:27:18,080
but they have now taken over the academy

699
00:27:21,990 --> 00:27:19,440
they control it

700
00:27:22,710 --> 00:27:22,000
they run it they they're doing what they

701
00:27:24,630 --> 00:27:22,720
like with it

702
00:27:26,710 --> 00:27:24,640
they're corrupting all the professions

703
00:27:30,389 --> 00:27:26,720
one by one the journalism as you say

704
00:27:33,029 --> 00:27:30,399
is the ethic of journalism is no longer

705
00:27:34,789 --> 00:27:33,039
to tell the truth but to advance a

706
00:27:37,750 --> 00:27:34,799
radical narrative

707
00:27:39,669 --> 00:27:37,760
same is true school teachers education

708
00:27:42,310 --> 00:27:39,679
departments of colleges are now

709
00:27:43,110 --> 00:27:42,320
very very strongly pro-social justice

710
00:27:46,950 --> 00:27:43,120
which means

711
00:27:50,310 --> 00:27:46,960
radical left um law

712
00:27:53,350 --> 00:27:50,320
increasingly low faculties are going

713
00:27:58,389 --> 00:27:53,360
radical left as well it's

714
00:28:03,350 --> 00:28:01,430
it's starting to affect the sciences

715
00:28:04,870 --> 00:28:03,360
more about architecture i have to stop

716
00:28:07,990 --> 00:28:04,880
beyond that one how does it affect

717
00:28:09,350 --> 00:28:08,000
architecture you know i'm not an expert

718
00:28:11,750 --> 00:28:09,360
in architecture but

719
00:28:12,710 --> 00:28:11,760
my friends tell me you know to tell me

720
00:28:15,430 --> 00:28:12,720
that

721
00:28:16,870 --> 00:28:15,440
the movement is is gaining ground for

722
00:28:19,830 --> 00:28:16,880
example

723
00:28:20,630 --> 00:28:19,840
my campus is about to build a new

724
00:28:23,510 --> 00:28:20,640
sciences

725
00:28:25,750 --> 00:28:23,520
building on campus they've hired a

726
00:28:32,310 --> 00:28:25,760
consultant

727
00:28:34,470 --> 00:28:32,320
for the purpose of of uh uh

728
00:28:36,710 --> 00:28:34,480
determining what campus opinion is on

729
00:28:38,630 --> 00:28:36,720
what this building should look like

730
00:28:40,230 --> 00:28:38,640
and so the consultant sent a

731
00:28:41,269 --> 00:28:40,240
questionnaire to all the students and

732
00:28:43,029 --> 00:28:41,279
faculty

733
00:28:44,870 --> 00:28:43,039
and one of the main questions they're

734
00:28:50,070 --> 00:28:44,880
asking is what would

735
00:28:54,470 --> 00:28:53,669
so you see it's it's seeping into

736
00:28:56,149 --> 00:28:54,480
everything

737
00:28:58,710 --> 00:28:56,159
yeah well the thing i thought of as i

738
00:28:59,590 --> 00:28:58,720
asked the question was climate change i

739
00:29:01,590 --> 00:28:59,600
could see how

740
00:29:03,430 --> 00:29:01,600
oh yeah climate change would affect

741
00:29:05,669 --> 00:29:03,440
architecture and it's k you have to have

742
00:29:08,070 --> 00:29:05,679
a green construction and so on and

743
00:29:09,590 --> 00:29:08,080
i'm sure climate change is something on

744
00:29:11,350 --> 00:29:09,600
college campuses

745
00:29:13,909 --> 00:29:11,360
you you you have to subscribe to

746
00:29:16,710 --> 00:29:13,919
otherwise you're going to be canceled

747
00:29:18,710 --> 00:29:16,720
absolutely there is a man on the

748
00:29:19,269 --> 00:29:18,720
university california los angeles campus

749
00:29:24,310 --> 00:29:19,279
who

750
00:29:28,230 --> 00:29:27,510
soot particles i think if i remember

751
00:29:29,990 --> 00:29:28,240
rightly

752
00:29:31,350 --> 00:29:30,000
i could be wrong this but i think it's

753
00:29:34,789 --> 00:29:31,360
diesel

754
00:29:38,070 --> 00:29:34,799
the

755
00:29:40,789 --> 00:29:38,080
soot particles leave behind and he

756
00:29:42,710 --> 00:29:40,799
um he did some very careful research and

757
00:29:46,269 --> 00:29:42,720
found that the health

758
00:29:47,830 --> 00:29:46,279
hazards of this were had been much

759
00:29:49,990 --> 00:29:47,840
exaggerated

760
00:29:51,830 --> 00:29:50,000
by other academic studies so he

761
00:29:55,830 --> 00:29:51,840
published his results

762
00:29:58,630 --> 00:29:55,840
and got fired because this was not what

763
00:29:59,269 --> 00:29:58,640
the climate change people wanted to hear

764
00:30:00,789 --> 00:29:59,279
yeah

765
00:30:02,389 --> 00:30:00,799
well one of them that i deal with

766
00:30:05,750 --> 00:30:02,399
because we did a deep dive on

767
00:30:07,350 --> 00:30:05,760
transgender is that you know

768
00:30:09,830 --> 00:30:07,360
born this way when it comes to

769
00:30:11,830 --> 00:30:09,840
transgender or um

770
00:30:13,350 --> 00:30:11,840
or sexual preference if you don't

771
00:30:13,909 --> 00:30:13,360
subscribe to born this way you're going

772
00:30:17,510 --> 00:30:13,919
to be

773
00:30:19,909 --> 00:30:17,520
oh yeah oh yeah and likewise i mean

774
00:30:21,350 --> 00:30:19,919
there's that famous case of the harvard

775
00:30:25,190 --> 00:30:21,360
president

776
00:30:28,230 --> 00:30:25,200
larry summers famous economist

777
00:30:32,310 --> 00:30:28,240
and he one day speculated

778
00:30:35,110 --> 00:30:32,320
just speculated in front of an audience

779
00:30:36,630 --> 00:30:35,120
as to he wondered whether the fact there

780
00:30:39,750 --> 00:30:36,640
were more male

781
00:30:41,830 --> 00:30:39,760
mathematicians and scientists than

782
00:30:44,870 --> 00:30:41,840
female

783
00:30:47,750 --> 00:30:44,880
one of the reasons might be that women

784
00:30:50,470 --> 00:30:47,760
prefer to do other things men prefer to

785
00:30:53,029 --> 00:30:50,480
do this and so on and that

786
00:30:54,950 --> 00:30:53,039
speculation just saying that it's one of

787
00:30:56,789 --> 00:30:54,960
the things we should look at he didn't

788
00:30:58,470 --> 00:30:56,799
say that that was the case

789
00:30:59,830 --> 00:30:58,480
he said there's one thing worth looking

790
00:31:03,029 --> 00:30:59,840
at

791
00:31:06,149 --> 00:31:03,039
he was fired from his presidency

792
00:31:08,549 --> 00:31:06,159
basically for that yeah well and

793
00:31:10,389 --> 00:31:08,559
going back to the statistics um i think

794
00:31:11,990 --> 00:31:10,399
one of them you cite is that about one

795
00:31:14,149 --> 00:31:12,000
in four

796
00:31:16,830 --> 00:31:14,159
professors are actually subscribed to

797
00:31:21,909 --> 00:31:16,840
marxist ideology

798
00:31:28,230 --> 00:31:25,669
it's it's it's a very complicated thing

799
00:31:30,230 --> 00:31:28,240
uh it's more in some subject areas than

800
00:31:32,070 --> 00:31:30,240
others i mean it's like sociology for

801
00:31:34,710 --> 00:31:32,080
example political science

802
00:31:35,909 --> 00:31:34,720
there's more there than there are in say

803
00:31:39,190 --> 00:31:35,919
in chemistry or

804
00:31:40,870 --> 00:31:39,200
or physics and also

805
00:31:42,310 --> 00:31:40,880
you have to be aware of the fact that

806
00:31:46,070 --> 00:31:42,320
people

807
00:31:47,909 --> 00:31:46,080
academic sociologists who are marxists

808
00:31:50,230 --> 00:31:47,919
know that they don't want to be

809
00:31:52,710 --> 00:31:50,240
identified as marxists

810
00:31:54,389 --> 00:31:52,720
so when they're asked the question how

811
00:31:55,509 --> 00:31:54,399
do you describe themselves they'll say

812
00:32:00,310 --> 00:31:55,519
well

813
00:32:03,830 --> 00:32:00,320
i'm a uh i'm a socialist or

814
00:32:07,750 --> 00:32:03,840
i'm a a political activist or

815
00:32:10,070 --> 00:32:07,760
so you you have to beware a bit

816
00:32:11,509 --> 00:32:10,080
of the numbers that you get from surveys

817
00:32:13,110 --> 00:32:11,519
but in other words it really should be

818
00:32:13,430 --> 00:32:13,120
higher than that because if somebody

819
00:32:15,750 --> 00:32:13,440
else

820
00:32:16,789 --> 00:32:15,760
says yes i'm a marxist yes they're

821
00:32:20,710 --> 00:32:16,799
hardcore

822
00:32:23,909 --> 00:32:20,720
yeah anymore i'm for economic justice

823
00:32:26,389 --> 00:32:23,919
that's right democrats socialists so

824
00:32:28,149 --> 00:32:26,399
among sociology academic sociologists

825
00:32:32,070 --> 00:32:28,159
professors of sociology

826
00:32:35,350 --> 00:32:32,080
one in four admits to being a marxist

827
00:32:38,470 --> 00:32:35,360
my guess is that that really means

828
00:32:41,430 --> 00:32:38,480
more like one in two is

829
00:32:43,110 --> 00:32:41,440
motivated by marxist ideas one of the

830
00:32:45,830 --> 00:32:43,120
great points you make in the book

831
00:32:46,470 --> 00:32:45,840
is for people to think about the vast

832
00:32:51,029 --> 00:32:46,480
sums

833
00:32:53,029 --> 00:32:51,039
of public money intended for education

834
00:32:55,669 --> 00:32:53,039
that are actually being diverted to this

835
00:32:58,549 --> 00:32:55,679
political agenda at these universities

836
00:32:59,669 --> 00:32:58,559
so it's our tax dollars yeah that are

837
00:33:01,269 --> 00:32:59,679
funding

838
00:33:02,710 --> 00:33:01,279
to some extent ultimately the democrat

839
00:33:05,110 --> 00:33:02,720
party because that's

840
00:33:05,750 --> 00:33:05,120
yeah you know where this is all heading

841
00:33:07,350 --> 00:33:05,760
ultimately

842
00:33:09,669 --> 00:33:07,360
and it's all our tax dollars that are

843
00:33:12,950 --> 00:33:09,679
going toward it

844
00:33:14,870 --> 00:33:12,960
it's a terrible situation i mean

845
00:33:17,029 --> 00:33:14,880
well not only tax dollars but when

846
00:33:17,669 --> 00:33:17,039
parents pay tuition for their kids go to

847
00:33:24,630 --> 00:33:17,679
college

848
00:33:27,430 --> 00:33:24,640
they're all supporting radical left

849
00:33:28,470 --> 00:33:27,440
politics and i don't think they really

850
00:33:30,230 --> 00:33:28,480
want to do that

851
00:33:31,669 --> 00:33:30,240
and i think they should you know the

852
00:33:36,789 --> 00:33:31,679
public

853
00:33:40,149 --> 00:33:36,799
should be sitting down and asking itself

854
00:33:43,590 --> 00:33:40,159
what really is happening now i mean

855
00:33:45,430 --> 00:33:43,600
30 40 years ago paying for that tuition

856
00:33:46,630 --> 00:33:45,440
paying those taxes to port state

857
00:33:48,710 --> 00:33:46,640
universities

858
00:33:50,070 --> 00:33:48,720
that brought you higher education that

859
00:33:52,389 --> 00:33:50,080
brought your kids

860
00:33:54,230 --> 00:33:52,399
something that enhanced their careers

861
00:33:56,070 --> 00:33:54,240
and that the rest of their lives

862
00:33:59,029 --> 00:33:56,080
now what the public really has got to do

863
00:34:01,430 --> 00:33:59,039
is sit down and say to itself

864
00:34:02,950 --> 00:34:01,440
is that really what's happening now

865
00:34:05,909 --> 00:34:02,960
because i don't think it is

866
00:34:06,310 --> 00:34:05,919
i think it's proof positive proof that

867
00:34:09,190 --> 00:34:06,320
it

868
00:34:10,230 --> 00:34:09,200
isn't happening now uh and the public

869
00:34:13,869 --> 00:34:10,240
ought to stop

870
00:34:16,790 --> 00:34:13,879
spending money in such a

871
00:34:18,790 --> 00:34:16,800
self-destructive way i mean the public

872
00:34:22,069 --> 00:34:18,800
is supporting

873
00:34:25,190 --> 00:34:22,079
a radical left enterprise

874
00:34:29,270 --> 00:34:25,200
that is causing social decay that is

875
00:34:32,470 --> 00:34:29,280
is seriously um

876
00:34:34,869 --> 00:34:32,480
reducing the the the

877
00:34:36,069 --> 00:34:34,879
quality of the society that they live in

878
00:34:37,190 --> 00:34:36,079
yeah well and it's in it's

879
00:34:39,270 --> 00:34:37,200
indoctrinating

880
00:34:41,270 --> 00:34:39,280
and it's just getting worse and worse

881
00:34:44,069 --> 00:34:41,280
the more that are indoctrinated

882
00:34:45,190 --> 00:34:44,079
the easier it is to sell this stuff yeah

883
00:34:47,109 --> 00:34:45,200
um

884
00:34:48,470 --> 00:34:47,119
you know i liking it to my

885
00:34:51,829 --> 00:34:48,480
indoctrination just being

886
00:34:53,349 --> 00:34:51,839
raised catholic as a as a child

887
00:34:55,190 --> 00:34:53,359
and you're just raised to believe

888
00:34:57,030 --> 00:34:55,200
certain things it's not yes

889
00:34:58,470 --> 00:34:57,040
deep into adulthood that you have any

890
00:35:00,710 --> 00:34:58,480
type of reckoning

891
00:35:02,390 --> 00:35:00,720
with that where you experience other

892
00:35:03,589 --> 00:35:02,400
things and you start to question

893
00:35:06,470 --> 00:35:03,599
that's what's happening with these

894
00:35:08,310 --> 00:35:06,480
college yeah right is they're coming out

895
00:35:09,670 --> 00:35:08,320
indoctrinated and then it's going to

896
00:35:12,870 --> 00:35:09,680
take a while

897
00:35:14,710 --> 00:35:12,880
if ever for them to realize

898
00:35:16,870 --> 00:35:14,720
whoa whoa whoa wait a minute this stuff

899
00:35:20,790 --> 00:35:16,880
i was taught this is

900
00:35:22,870 --> 00:35:20,800
true yes and unlike the

901
00:35:24,069 --> 00:35:22,880
indoctrination you get as a catholic i

902
00:35:29,990 --> 00:35:24,079
mean

903
00:35:30,870 --> 00:35:30,000
a large part of it is rather useful

904
00:35:35,030 --> 00:35:30,880
right like

905
00:35:37,990 --> 00:35:35,040
for example your individual conscience

906
00:35:39,990 --> 00:35:38,000
as your guide that's a very useful thing

907
00:35:43,349 --> 00:35:40,000
to have drummed into you

908
00:35:45,030 --> 00:35:43,359
that there is a standard of conduct that

909
00:35:48,710 --> 00:35:45,040
you must measure up to

910
00:35:50,470 --> 00:35:48,720
and that it's one that you said um

911
00:35:52,230 --> 00:35:50,480
and there's also a demand for

912
00:35:55,910 --> 00:35:52,240
truthfulness

913
00:35:59,030 --> 00:35:55,920
um so you know there's morality

914
00:36:00,550 --> 00:35:59,040
ethics and decency decent treatment of

915
00:36:03,910 --> 00:36:00,560
other people

916
00:36:05,510 --> 00:36:03,920
uh if you're a radical if you're radical

917
00:36:09,109 --> 00:36:05,520
leftist

918
00:36:12,710 --> 00:36:09,119
the goal is power

919
00:36:15,109 --> 00:36:12,720
for radical leftists and anything goes

920
00:36:16,150 --> 00:36:15,119
in the pursuit of that power uh that's

921
00:36:19,190 --> 00:36:16,160
this

922
00:36:21,910 --> 00:36:19,200
the very sad thing about it it is

923
00:36:24,630 --> 00:36:21,920
justifies the means yeah it's a

924
00:36:27,190 --> 00:36:24,640
thoroughly immoral

925
00:36:27,750 --> 00:36:27,200
creed let's go back to this the to the

926
00:36:30,310 --> 00:36:27,760
plan

927
00:36:32,150 --> 00:36:30,320
that that these radicals developed back

928
00:36:33,829 --> 00:36:32,160
in the 60s that you're saying they were

929
00:36:36,310 --> 00:36:33,839
successful at

930
00:36:36,950 --> 00:36:36,320
what what exactly were the details of

931
00:36:38,870 --> 00:36:36,960
that plan

932
00:36:40,390 --> 00:36:38,880
and what can we learn from that as we

933
00:36:43,270 --> 00:36:40,400
think today about

934
00:36:45,829 --> 00:36:43,280
trying to come up with a new plan well

935
00:36:48,069 --> 00:36:45,839
their plan was pretty simple i mean

936
00:36:48,870 --> 00:36:48,079
it starts out with the fact that they

937
00:36:52,069 --> 00:36:48,880
they have a

938
00:36:54,950 --> 00:36:52,079
certain belief system which is marxism

939
00:36:55,750 --> 00:36:54,960
and then they say that americans are

940
00:36:59,750 --> 00:36:55,760
basically

941
00:37:02,310 --> 00:36:59,760
too complacent too stuck in their ideas

942
00:37:03,349 --> 00:37:02,320
and really the hint is too stupid the

943
00:37:05,750 --> 00:37:03,359
electorate

944
00:37:06,710 --> 00:37:05,760
to ever allow them to succeed at the

945
00:37:09,430 --> 00:37:06,720
ballot box

946
00:37:11,109 --> 00:37:09,440
so okay they have these ideas they

947
00:37:12,870 --> 00:37:11,119
believe in these ideas

948
00:37:14,950 --> 00:37:12,880
they think these ideas ought to be the

949
00:37:15,910 --> 00:37:14,960
ideas that went out that control our

950
00:37:18,950 --> 00:37:15,920
society

951
00:37:21,910 --> 00:37:18,960
but no one no one will join with them

952
00:37:23,030 --> 00:37:21,920
they were 200 people at that time get

953
00:37:27,349 --> 00:37:23,040
less than

954
00:37:30,710 --> 00:37:27,359
population

955
00:37:31,510 --> 00:37:30,720
um so they said there's the way forward

956
00:37:35,510 --> 00:37:31,520
is just

957
00:37:38,710 --> 00:37:35,520
literally their words seize control

958
00:37:42,230 --> 00:37:38,720
of university faculties

959
00:37:45,430 --> 00:37:42,240
to use the the position of of the

960
00:37:48,710 --> 00:37:45,440
university as the the

961
00:37:51,829 --> 00:37:48,720
uh as an agency within the society

962
00:37:55,270 --> 00:37:51,839
that that that promotes

963
00:37:57,030 --> 00:37:55,280
beliefs and ideas so they they were very

964
00:38:00,230 --> 00:37:57,040
conscious about the fact that

965
00:38:01,750 --> 00:38:00,240
universities spread ideas they spread

966
00:38:05,030 --> 00:38:01,760
codes of conduct

967
00:38:08,550 --> 00:38:05,040
they spread uh you know

968
00:38:11,109 --> 00:38:08,560
a sort of way of behaving and they said

969
00:38:12,950 --> 00:38:11,119
we've got to take control of that and

970
00:38:16,069 --> 00:38:12,960
then we'll use it to spread

971
00:38:18,630 --> 00:38:16,079
our ideas now was

972
00:38:20,950 --> 00:38:18,640
thoroughly immoral they were admitting

973
00:38:23,589 --> 00:38:20,960
that they couldn't win at the ballot box

974
00:38:26,390 --> 00:38:23,599
so they what they were going to do is to

975
00:38:28,470 --> 00:38:26,400
make our educational system a banana a

976
00:38:31,030 --> 00:38:28,480
public educational system

977
00:38:32,150 --> 00:38:31,040
one where a government controls

978
00:38:35,589 --> 00:38:32,160
everything the citizens

979
00:38:39,829 --> 00:38:35,599
can can think and believe now

980
00:38:45,430 --> 00:38:43,430
break up the the whole

981
00:38:49,349 --> 00:38:45,440
structure they built up i mean to

982
00:38:51,030 --> 00:38:49,359
basically say to the universities

983
00:38:52,950 --> 00:38:51,040
you don't deserve the funding we're

984
00:38:54,710 --> 00:38:52,960
giving you because you're not using that

985
00:38:56,150 --> 00:38:54,720
money for the purpose that it's been

986
00:38:59,349 --> 00:38:56,160
given to you for

987
00:39:01,750 --> 00:38:59,359
so we're cutting off the money and

988
00:39:03,670 --> 00:39:01,760
uh you're going to have to fire all

989
00:39:05,670 --> 00:39:03,680
those people who have no academic

990
00:39:07,030 --> 00:39:05,680
qualifications but are only political

991
00:39:08,390 --> 00:39:07,040
activists

992
00:39:10,550 --> 00:39:08,400
you have to get rid of them and you're

993
00:39:13,030 --> 00:39:10,560
going to have to hire people who

994
00:39:15,349 --> 00:39:13,040
really care about developing students

995
00:39:18,069 --> 00:39:15,359
ability to think for themselves

996
00:39:18,630 --> 00:39:18,079
as opposed to thinking the way you want

997
00:39:24,150 --> 00:39:18,640
them

998
00:39:26,069 --> 00:39:24,160
because i'm in my mind i'm thinking

999
00:39:27,910 --> 00:39:26,079
about california naturally i'm thinking

1000
00:39:30,150 --> 00:39:27,920
well that ain't gonna happen anytime

1001
00:39:33,670 --> 00:39:30,160
soon because look who's in

1002
00:39:36,390 --> 00:39:33,680
leadership in sacramento um but

1003
00:39:36,790 --> 00:39:36,400
i i gotta assume that if you look at

1004
00:39:39,270 --> 00:39:36,800
more

1005
00:39:39,910 --> 00:39:39,280
red states whether it be texas or

1006
00:39:41,910 --> 00:39:39,920
florida

1007
00:39:43,270 --> 00:39:41,920
et cetera that the problem is not as bad

1008
00:39:46,390 --> 00:39:43,280
there

1009
00:39:47,829 --> 00:39:46,400
i think you have some chance in red

1010
00:39:52,230 --> 00:39:47,839
states

1011
00:39:53,670 --> 00:39:52,240
um because there will be the political

1012
00:39:55,910 --> 00:39:53,680
will

1013
00:39:57,910 --> 00:39:55,920
to do it you're saying the problem still

1014
00:40:00,230 --> 00:39:57,920
exists in these red states

1015
00:40:03,589 --> 00:40:00,240
oh yeah it exists everywhere no no

1016
00:40:06,710 --> 00:40:03,599
academia is a monolith

1017
00:40:09,990 --> 00:40:06,720
but just to put a fine point on it isn't

1018
00:40:14,470 --> 00:40:10,000
aren't the campuses in california worse

1019
00:40:20,309 --> 00:40:17,750
no no there i mean

1020
00:40:22,950 --> 00:40:20,319
i i know of two or three places i would

1021
00:40:24,309 --> 00:40:22,960
send children to but that's about all

1022
00:40:25,910 --> 00:40:24,319
uh what are those by the way because

1023
00:40:28,870 --> 00:40:25,920
that was going to be one of my questions

1024
00:40:31,670 --> 00:40:28,880
well hillsdale college

1025
00:40:33,430 --> 00:40:31,680
um and then grove city college which i

1026
00:40:37,829 --> 00:40:33,440
forget where that is but

1027
00:40:39,109 --> 00:40:37,839
just just a tiny handful hillsdale's in

1028
00:40:42,069 --> 00:40:39,119
new york isn't it

1029
00:40:42,790 --> 00:40:42,079
no uh hillsdale's in uh is it uh

1030
00:40:44,870 --> 00:40:42,800
michigan

1031
00:40:45,910 --> 00:40:44,880
i think okay so what is that a small

1032
00:40:50,470 --> 00:40:45,920
liberal arts school

1033
00:40:53,190 --> 00:40:50,480
resolute refused to take

1034
00:40:54,069 --> 00:40:53,200
uh federal money so the feds haven't

1035
00:40:57,190 --> 00:40:54,079
been able to

1036
00:40:59,589 --> 00:40:57,200
control them at all uh but no

1037
00:41:01,190 --> 00:40:59,599
the the problem is this the academic

1038
00:41:03,589 --> 00:41:01,200
world is

1039
00:41:04,710 --> 00:41:03,599
something of a unit you know the

1040
00:41:07,270 --> 00:41:04,720
attitudes

1041
00:41:09,109 --> 00:41:07,280
on one campus spread to another campus

1042
00:41:10,230 --> 00:41:09,119
very it's a little world of its own

1043
00:41:13,109 --> 00:41:10,240
academia

1044
00:41:13,829 --> 00:41:13,119
so take for example north carolina i

1045
00:41:16,630 --> 00:41:13,839
mean uh

1046
00:41:17,270 --> 00:41:16,640
you know it has a a university state

1047
00:41:20,470 --> 00:41:17,280
university

1048
00:41:23,510 --> 00:41:20,480
that

1049
00:41:26,870 --> 00:41:23,520
50 years ago ranked with

1050
00:41:29,109 --> 00:41:26,880
world-class universities and it's a

1051
00:41:30,790 --> 00:41:29,119
fairly you know moderately conservative

1052
00:41:32,390 --> 00:41:30,800
environment you'd think that that would

1053
00:41:36,230 --> 00:41:32,400
retain

1054
00:41:39,990 --> 00:41:36,240
more value than say california does

1055
00:41:41,670 --> 00:41:40,000
but it but it's it's it's not true i

1056
00:41:44,309 --> 00:41:41,680
mean

1057
00:41:45,670 --> 00:41:44,319
academic campuses influence each other

1058
00:41:47,750 --> 00:41:45,680
the standards

1059
00:41:50,390 --> 00:41:47,760
professors really like sheep i mean they

1060
00:41:52,390 --> 00:41:50,400
really do follow each other

1061
00:41:53,510 --> 00:41:52,400
so what you have to do though i think is

1062
00:41:56,710 --> 00:41:53,520
build on

1063
00:41:58,630 --> 00:41:56,720
situations in

1064
00:42:02,230 --> 00:41:58,640
red states where there is a political

1065
00:42:02,710 --> 00:42:02,240
will for the legislature to say we're

1066
00:42:04,710 --> 00:42:02,720
not

1067
00:42:06,710 --> 00:42:04,720
funding this anymore because this isn't

1068
00:42:08,069 --> 00:42:06,720
genuine higher education anymore

1069
00:42:09,990 --> 00:42:08,079
well that's the beauty of america and

1070
00:42:13,349 --> 00:42:10,000
having the 50 different states

1071
00:42:16,150 --> 00:42:13,359
so let me ask is there a state that has

1072
00:42:19,430 --> 00:42:16,160
attempted this yet

1073
00:42:22,550 --> 00:42:19,440
uh there were sort of glimmerings

1074
00:42:24,550 --> 00:42:22,560
here and there um but nothing and

1075
00:42:26,790 --> 00:42:24,560
nothing big nothing big time i mean the

1076
00:42:29,910 --> 00:42:26,800
one or two places that have

1077
00:42:32,630 --> 00:42:29,920
uh started to

1078
00:42:33,349 --> 00:42:32,640
introduce legislation to for example to

1079
00:42:36,470 --> 00:42:33,359
make

1080
00:42:38,630 --> 00:42:36,480
um free speech on campus mandatory you

1081
00:42:40,710 --> 00:42:38,640
know so you can't shout down

1082
00:42:43,270 --> 00:42:40,720
uh visiting speakers but that's really

1083
00:42:46,550 --> 00:42:43,280
pretty superficial stuff because

1084
00:42:48,309 --> 00:42:46,560
uh you could you can

1085
00:42:50,550 --> 00:42:48,319
protect visiting speakers from being

1086
00:42:51,750 --> 00:42:50,560
shouted down but that won't stop what's

1087
00:42:53,910 --> 00:42:51,760
happening in the classrooms

1088
00:42:55,670 --> 00:42:53,920
in other words the same radical

1089
00:42:57,190 --> 00:42:55,680
professors are still brainwashing

1090
00:42:59,589 --> 00:42:57,200
students in the classrooms

1091
00:43:00,309 --> 00:42:59,599
so this is an issue that that that cries

1092
00:43:03,430 --> 00:43:00,319
out

1093
00:43:03,910 --> 00:43:03,440
for a republican governor in one of

1094
00:43:07,910 --> 00:43:03,920
those

1095
00:43:11,190 --> 00:43:07,920
red states yeah make this a top priority

1096
00:43:13,589 --> 00:43:11,200
backed by a vibrant

1097
00:43:15,190 --> 00:43:13,599
public opinion the public opinion that

1098
00:43:17,670 --> 00:43:15,200
simply says to the governor

1099
00:43:19,829 --> 00:43:17,680
we want you to fix this problem because

1100
00:43:22,870 --> 00:43:19,839
our kids are not getting an education

1101
00:43:23,349 --> 00:43:22,880
now my feeling is this that once one

1102
00:43:29,910 --> 00:43:23,359
state

1103
00:43:32,710 --> 00:43:29,920
say the let's take just as an example

1104
00:43:33,750 --> 00:43:32,720
university of nebraska if that were to

1105
00:43:35,829 --> 00:43:33,760
be reformed

1106
00:43:37,109 --> 00:43:35,839
if radical activists would be shoved

1107
00:43:40,230 --> 00:43:37,119
aside and

1108
00:43:42,630 --> 00:43:40,240
serious academic teachers hired

1109
00:43:43,750 --> 00:43:42,640
it would be a magnet i mean all across

1110
00:43:45,510 --> 00:43:43,760
the country people

1111
00:43:47,270 --> 00:43:45,520
parents would know there's a real

1112
00:43:49,589 --> 00:43:47,280
education available here

1113
00:43:50,309 --> 00:43:49,599
i mean not a brainwashing right so your

1114
00:43:51,510 --> 00:43:50,319
kids

1115
00:43:53,589 --> 00:43:51,520
are going to be able to think for

1116
00:43:55,510 --> 00:43:53,599
themselves they're going to know

1117
00:43:57,030 --> 00:43:55,520
can you bet applications would go

1118
00:43:57,829 --> 00:43:57,040
through the roof to the university of

1119
00:44:00,710 --> 00:43:57,839
nebraska

1120
00:44:01,990 --> 00:44:00,720
that's right that's right and uh my

1121
00:44:05,990 --> 00:44:02,000
feeling is that it would be

1122
00:44:09,190 --> 00:44:06,000
so successful that then another

1123
00:44:13,190 --> 00:44:09,200
place maybe now maybe the university of

1124
00:44:16,309 --> 00:44:13,200
south dakota would be tempted to try it

1125
00:44:18,230 --> 00:44:16,319
once you get three or four

1126
00:44:19,349 --> 00:44:18,240
there will be a bad wagon effect i'm

1127
00:44:22,230 --> 00:44:19,359
sure and

1128
00:44:23,910 --> 00:44:22,240
because i think parents are not happy

1129
00:44:25,270 --> 00:44:23,920
with what's going on they're paying all

1130
00:44:27,109 --> 00:44:25,280
sorts of money

1131
00:44:29,109 --> 00:44:27,119
and they're getting kids that are just

1132
00:44:30,870 --> 00:44:29,119
brainwashed sometimes

1133
00:44:33,670 --> 00:44:30,880
kids come home from college and they're

1134
00:44:35,750 --> 00:44:33,680
estranged from their parents

1135
00:44:37,190 --> 00:44:35,760
because of this radical brainwashing so

1136
00:44:37,750 --> 00:44:37,200
i thought well yeah especially with the

1137
00:44:39,829 --> 00:44:37,760
canceled

1138
00:44:41,829 --> 00:44:39,839
culture i i had this happen recently

1139
00:44:43,349 --> 00:44:41,839
with a friend of mine who won't talk to

1140
00:44:45,510 --> 00:44:43,359
me anymore because

1141
00:44:46,790 --> 00:44:45,520
i suggested that the problem isn't

1142
00:44:48,710 --> 00:44:46,800
police brutality

1143
00:44:50,150 --> 00:44:48,720
in the black community the problem is

1144
00:44:51,829 --> 00:44:50,160
lack of black fathers

1145
00:44:54,470 --> 00:44:51,839
he considered that to be a racist

1146
00:44:55,910 --> 00:44:54,480
comment and uh i don't hear from it i'm

1147
00:44:58,710 --> 00:44:55,920
canceled i'm out

1148
00:44:59,349 --> 00:44:58,720
well i mean the general decay of the

1149
00:45:03,510 --> 00:44:59,359
support

1150
00:45:08,150 --> 00:45:03,520
system i mean for example uh

1151
00:45:12,309 --> 00:45:08,160
go back to uh what not yet 1900

1152
00:45:15,349 --> 00:45:12,319
lots of um irish immigrants

1153
00:45:17,030 --> 00:45:15,359
jewish immigrants italian immigrants who

1154
00:45:18,790 --> 00:45:17,040
are the have-nots of their day right

1155
00:45:21,109 --> 00:45:18,800
they're poor

1156
00:45:23,430 --> 00:45:21,119
and they count they don't count for much

1157
00:45:26,870 --> 00:45:23,440
in the social system

1158
00:45:29,109 --> 00:45:26,880
now because higher education was genuine

1159
00:45:29,990 --> 00:45:29,119
it i mean if you could get into a

1160
00:45:31,910 --> 00:45:30,000
college

1161
00:45:33,750 --> 00:45:31,920
you got a damn good education you got

1162
00:45:35,750 --> 00:45:33,760
taught to think for yourself

1163
00:45:37,030 --> 00:45:35,760
you got the equipment you needed to

1164
00:45:39,750 --> 00:45:37,040
succeed now

1165
00:45:41,190 --> 00:45:39,760
the result of that is that 50 years

1166
00:45:44,790 --> 00:45:41,200
later

1167
00:45:47,270 --> 00:45:44,800
you got presidents and senators

1168
00:45:48,790 --> 00:45:47,280
and supreme court justices from those

1169
00:45:53,910 --> 00:45:48,800
populations

1170
00:45:56,950 --> 00:45:53,920
now as of about i would say what 1950

1171
00:45:59,270 --> 00:45:56,960
1969 70

1172
00:46:00,150 --> 00:45:59,280
it was irish were already taken care of

1173
00:46:01,910 --> 00:46:00,160
they were

1174
00:46:04,069 --> 00:46:01,920
highly successful the italians were

1175
00:46:07,510 --> 00:46:04,079
highly successful and so on

1176
00:46:10,470 --> 00:46:07,520
but blacks it was their turn to move up

1177
00:46:11,349 --> 00:46:10,480
and what happened they got college

1178
00:46:14,950 --> 00:46:11,359
campuses

1179
00:46:17,349 --> 00:46:14,960
that were so corrupt and so politicized

1180
00:46:18,470 --> 00:46:17,359
that they didn't get an education and

1181
00:46:22,470 --> 00:46:18,480
part of what we're seeing

1182
00:46:26,390 --> 00:46:22,480
now is the the division

1183
00:46:29,750 --> 00:46:26,400
between minorities and the wider culture

1184
00:46:32,870 --> 00:46:29,760
is not going away if it should have been

1185
00:46:34,150 --> 00:46:32,880
had had those kids been getting minority

1186
00:46:37,510 --> 00:46:34,160
kids been getting

1187
00:46:38,150 --> 00:46:37,520
the first-rate education that the irish

1188
00:46:40,790 --> 00:46:38,160
of

1189
00:46:42,470 --> 00:46:40,800
100 years ago were getting they would

1190
00:46:45,109 --> 00:46:42,480
have moved up the ladder

1191
00:46:46,309 --> 00:46:45,119
and the society we live in would have

1192
00:46:49,589 --> 00:46:46,319
been racially

1193
00:46:51,589 --> 00:46:49,599
much more integrated much happier well

1194
00:46:53,829 --> 00:46:51,599
aren't you referring even more so in

1195
00:46:56,309 --> 00:46:53,839
that circumstance to k-12

1196
00:46:57,430 --> 00:46:56,319
yeah absolutely absolutely well but

1197
00:47:00,950 --> 00:46:57,440
because again

1198
00:47:01,270 --> 00:47:00,960
who trains the k-12 teachers academics

1199
00:47:04,630 --> 00:47:01,280
do

1200
00:47:05,670 --> 00:47:04,640
on college campuses so basically what

1201
00:47:07,829 --> 00:47:05,680
we've got is

1202
00:47:09,750 --> 00:47:07,839
a breakdown of higher education a

1203
00:47:10,790 --> 00:47:09,760
breakdown of elementary and high school

1204
00:47:13,750 --> 00:47:10,800
education

1205
00:47:14,390 --> 00:47:13,760
and who suffers most in that situation

1206
00:47:17,589 --> 00:47:14,400
well

1207
00:47:20,390 --> 00:47:17,599
the people whose turn it was to move

1208
00:47:21,270 --> 00:47:20,400
up through a first-rate education in

1209
00:47:24,630 --> 00:47:21,280
other words

1210
00:47:26,710 --> 00:47:24,640
minorities so what the radicals are

1211
00:47:29,270 --> 00:47:26,720
doing

1212
00:47:31,109 --> 00:47:29,280
the people they are most harming are

1213
00:47:33,430 --> 00:47:31,119
minorities

1214
00:47:35,109 --> 00:47:33,440
which is very very sad i mean when they

1215
00:47:38,230 --> 00:47:35,119
say black lives matter

1216
00:47:41,349 --> 00:47:38,240
the answer to that is yes they do

1217
00:47:42,790 --> 00:47:41,359
and that and they they matter so much

1218
00:47:44,870 --> 00:47:42,800
that you should

1219
00:47:47,270 --> 00:47:44,880
cut out your nonsense on the college

1220
00:47:50,150 --> 00:47:47,280
campuses and make sure those kids get a

1221
00:47:52,549 --> 00:47:50,160
decent education

1222
00:47:54,069 --> 00:47:52,559
yeah and i think these teachers unions

1223
00:47:56,630 --> 00:47:54,079
need to be called to account

1224
00:47:58,630 --> 00:47:56,640
especially in california where they seem

1225
00:48:01,109 --> 00:47:58,640
to be holding out

1226
00:48:01,990 --> 00:48:01,119
on agreeing to go back to teaching yeah

1227
00:48:05,430 --> 00:48:02,000
provided

1228
00:48:07,430 --> 00:48:05,440
uh you know the the la union

1229
00:48:08,710 --> 00:48:07,440
is demanding defunding of the police

1230
00:48:09,589 --> 00:48:08,720
before they're going to come back to

1231
00:48:11,750 --> 00:48:09,599
teach

1232
00:48:13,750 --> 00:48:11,760
yeah yeah well that's the radical

1233
00:48:14,390 --> 00:48:13,760
playbook you never let a crisis go to

1234
00:48:17,750 --> 00:48:14,400
waste

1235
00:48:20,710 --> 00:48:17,760
milk it for whatever you can uh and

1236
00:48:22,309 --> 00:48:20,720
your political goals come you know

1237
00:48:23,510 --> 00:48:22,319
always remember what your political

1238
00:48:26,069 --> 00:48:23,520
goals are

1239
00:48:27,670 --> 00:48:26,079
and uh advance them by any means

1240
00:48:29,670 --> 00:48:27,680
necessary right but i mean

1241
00:48:31,910 --> 00:48:29,680
these teachers unions in california they

1242
00:48:33,829 --> 00:48:31,920
are radical i mean the leaders of them

1243
00:48:34,549 --> 00:48:33,839
are very radical they are the number one

1244
00:48:37,670 --> 00:48:34,559
lobby group

1245
00:48:38,790 --> 00:48:37,680
in sacramento yeah they're the ones that

1246
00:48:40,309 --> 00:48:38,800
are dictating

1247
00:48:42,309 --> 00:48:40,319
you know the the terms of any

1248
00:48:43,109 --> 00:48:42,319
negotiation etc for their teachers i

1249
00:48:45,349 --> 00:48:43,119
gotta imagine

1250
00:48:47,190 --> 00:48:45,359
if you polled the actual teachers in

1251
00:48:48,790 --> 00:48:47,200
california i'll bet you the majority of

1252
00:48:51,750 --> 00:48:48,800
them would like to go back

1253
00:48:52,069 --> 00:48:51,760
and are ready to teach but the unions

1254
00:48:55,109 --> 00:48:52,079
are

1255
00:48:57,589 --> 00:48:55,119
using this to make political demands

1256
00:48:59,430 --> 00:48:57,599
yeah yeah because they're radical

1257
00:49:01,190 --> 00:48:59,440
leftists

1258
00:49:03,270 --> 00:49:01,200
and that's that's the way running

1259
00:49:06,069 --> 00:49:03,280
leftists work

1260
00:49:07,829 --> 00:49:06,079
they for the radical left you use

1261
00:49:10,069 --> 00:49:07,839
whatever comes to hand

1262
00:49:12,309 --> 00:49:10,079
to advance your political objectives and

1263
00:49:13,349 --> 00:49:12,319
it doesn't matter who you heard in the

1264
00:49:14,870 --> 00:49:13,359
process

1265
00:49:16,710 --> 00:49:14,880
and this is yet another example of

1266
00:49:17,750 --> 00:49:16,720
public dollars going to support this

1267
00:49:20,710 --> 00:49:17,760
because

1268
00:49:22,069 --> 00:49:20,720
it's our tax dollars that are paying

1269
00:49:23,829 --> 00:49:22,079
these teachers

1270
00:49:26,390 --> 00:49:23,839
that are giving their percentage to the

1271
00:49:29,510 --> 00:49:26,400
unions that are then lobbying

1272
00:49:32,710 --> 00:49:29,520
the state that pays them that's right

1273
00:49:34,069 --> 00:49:32,720
that's right so it's a and what in

1274
00:49:35,589 --> 00:49:34,079
universities

1275
00:49:38,710 --> 00:49:35,599
remind me are we dealing with unions

1276
00:49:41,670 --> 00:49:38,720
when it comes to professors or not

1277
00:49:42,710 --> 00:49:41,680
well um sort of and sort of not i mean

1278
00:49:45,910 --> 00:49:42,720
uh in this

1279
00:49:47,910 --> 00:49:45,920
in california now the state colleges

1280
00:49:49,829 --> 00:49:47,920
are una nice there's the american

1281
00:49:52,950 --> 00:49:49,839
federation of teachers

1282
00:49:55,990 --> 00:49:52,960
um i believe they still represent the

1283
00:49:56,950 --> 00:49:56,000
the professoriate of um of the state

1284
00:49:58,390 --> 00:49:56,960
college system

1285
00:49:59,750 --> 00:49:58,400
university california is slightly

1286
00:50:02,549 --> 00:49:59,760
different there's the faculty

1287
00:50:06,710 --> 00:50:02,559
association which is an independent

1288
00:50:09,910 --> 00:50:08,790
unless things have changed since i was

1289
00:50:13,190 --> 00:50:09,920
last involved

1290
00:50:15,030 --> 00:50:13,200
i mean i was once the president of

1291
00:50:17,349 --> 00:50:15,040
the faculty association santa cruz

1292
00:50:18,790 --> 00:50:17,359
campus um

1293
00:50:20,549 --> 00:50:18,800
but unless things have changed that's

1294
00:50:23,109 --> 00:50:20,559
still an independent group that's not

1295
00:50:25,109 --> 00:50:23,119
aligned with another union

1296
00:50:26,390 --> 00:50:25,119
um so i would say the university of

1297
00:50:30,230 --> 00:50:26,400
california

1298
00:50:34,390 --> 00:50:30,240
but this is just simply a an in-house

1299
00:50:37,030 --> 00:50:34,400
union that fairly represents

1300
00:50:39,030 --> 00:50:37,040
what the sentiment is of the faculty

1301
00:50:42,150 --> 00:50:39,040
which is radical anyway

1302
00:50:45,109 --> 00:50:42,160
but on the state college campuses

1303
00:50:45,990 --> 00:50:45,119
they're they're they're represented by a

1304
00:50:48,870 --> 00:50:46,000
union that has

1305
00:50:50,870 --> 00:50:48,880
wider ties i mean that that is that it

1306
00:50:53,190 --> 00:50:50,880
can be manipulated from outside the

1307
00:50:56,630 --> 00:50:53,200
university system

1308
00:51:00,150 --> 00:50:56,640
how do you read the politics of

1309
00:51:03,190 --> 00:51:00,160
college campuses not opening to

1310
00:51:03,750 --> 00:51:03,200
in-room education due to covid and k-12

1311
00:51:07,510 --> 00:51:03,760
not

1312
00:51:10,549 --> 00:51:07,520
opening well i suppose this

1313
00:51:11,910 --> 00:51:10,559
depends on the medical evidence and from

1314
00:51:14,790 --> 00:51:11,920
what i've read

1315
00:51:16,470 --> 00:51:14,800
there's no medical evidence whatsoever

1316
00:51:19,030 --> 00:51:16,480
that says

1317
00:51:19,990 --> 00:51:19,040
you should keep elementary and high

1318
00:51:23,430 --> 00:51:20,000
schools closed

1319
00:51:24,549 --> 00:51:23,440
may they looks to me as if the science

1320
00:51:26,309 --> 00:51:24,559
is clear on that

1321
00:51:28,549 --> 00:51:26,319
yeah well there's just to add to that

1322
00:51:31,910 --> 00:51:28,559
there there's been one

1323
00:51:34,069 --> 00:51:31,920
i repeat one confirmed coveted

1324
00:51:35,910 --> 00:51:34,079
death of someone under 19 years old it

1325
00:51:37,349 --> 00:51:35,920
was a 17 year old who had underlying

1326
00:51:38,390 --> 00:51:37,359
conditions and they haven't disclosed

1327
00:51:42,150 --> 00:51:38,400
what those are

1328
00:51:42,870 --> 00:51:42,160
so essentially no one let's just talk k

1329
00:51:46,150 --> 00:51:42,880
through 12

1330
00:51:47,589 --> 00:51:46,160
no one has died so whose health are we

1331
00:51:50,710 --> 00:51:47,599
concerned about

1332
00:51:51,270 --> 00:51:50,720
that what we're doing we're keeping our

1333
00:51:52,950 --> 00:51:51,280
kids

1334
00:51:55,109 --> 00:51:52,960
out because of the teachers well i just

1335
00:51:57,750 --> 00:51:55,119
flew on an american airlines flight

1336
00:51:58,710 --> 00:51:57,760
back from a little uh vacation and

1337
00:52:01,349 --> 00:51:58,720
there's

1338
00:52:03,109 --> 00:52:01,359
stewardess flight attendants working on

1339
00:52:04,230 --> 00:52:03,119
there

1340
00:52:07,030 --> 00:52:04,240
they're not complaining they're

1341
00:52:09,030 --> 00:52:07,040
represented by a union they're working

1342
00:52:10,790 --> 00:52:09,040
yeah no i i don't think there's any case

1343
00:52:15,430 --> 00:52:10,800
whatever for keeping uh

1344
00:52:19,030 --> 00:52:17,750
i think the same thing i i don't see why

1345
00:52:21,109 --> 00:52:19,040
you don't open them

1346
00:52:22,390 --> 00:52:21,119
so if there's no if you see no reason

1347
00:52:26,230 --> 00:52:22,400
then why

1348
00:52:29,349 --> 00:52:26,240
do you believe they're not opening

1349
00:52:32,630 --> 00:52:29,359
well it's probably political i think uh

1350
00:52:34,549 --> 00:52:32,640
at the moment the one the one starting

1351
00:52:36,309 --> 00:52:34,559
point you always have with college

1352
00:52:38,630 --> 00:52:36,319
campuses right now

1353
00:52:41,109 --> 00:52:38,640
is that they are deeply political so

1354
00:52:45,030 --> 00:52:41,119
they're motivated by political concerns

1355
00:52:45,670 --> 00:52:45,040
left radical concerns and once you start

1356
00:52:48,870 --> 00:52:45,680
from that

1357
00:52:51,030 --> 00:52:48,880
starting point then the question is what

1358
00:52:52,069 --> 00:52:51,040
is the particular political motivation

1359
00:52:55,190 --> 00:52:52,079
of this and

1360
00:52:57,910 --> 00:52:55,200
it's likely to be

1361
00:52:59,910 --> 00:52:57,920
something to do with the thinking that

1362
00:53:00,309 --> 00:52:59,920
politically it's to their advantage to

1363
00:53:03,430 --> 00:53:00,319
have

1364
00:53:03,990 --> 00:53:03,440
things closed yeah i'm not sure that's

1365
00:53:07,030 --> 00:53:04,000
actually

1366
00:53:08,549 --> 00:53:07,040
true because i think that the longer the

1367
00:53:14,549 --> 00:53:08,559
campuses

1368
00:53:15,990 --> 00:53:14,559
the more room there is for parents to

1369
00:53:19,430 --> 00:53:16,000
reconsider whether this

1370
00:53:22,230 --> 00:53:19,440
is worthwhile and the more

1371
00:53:23,990 --> 00:53:22,240
people will feel inclined to research

1372
00:53:26,950 --> 00:53:24,000
alternatives

1373
00:53:28,309 --> 00:53:26,960
so for example suppose your kid comes

1374
00:53:31,270 --> 00:53:28,319
home

1375
00:53:32,150 --> 00:53:31,280
and does his college work online which

1376
00:53:34,790 --> 00:53:32,160
is what

1377
00:53:35,670 --> 00:53:34,800
the university california and the state

1378
00:53:37,510 --> 00:53:35,680
college system

1379
00:53:38,870 --> 00:53:37,520
seem to be looking towards now for the

1380
00:53:41,910 --> 00:53:38,880
fourth quarter

1381
00:53:43,270 --> 00:53:41,920
so these kids are at home and they say

1382
00:53:46,470 --> 00:53:43,280
doing a course on

1383
00:53:48,390 --> 00:53:46,480
us history online

1384
00:53:51,109 --> 00:53:48,400
well the problem is their parents can

1385
00:53:53,990 --> 00:53:51,119
just sneak up behind them

1386
00:53:56,069 --> 00:53:54,000
and look and see what's happening and if

1387
00:53:58,549 --> 00:53:56,079
the history course they're getting is

1388
00:54:01,990 --> 00:53:58,559
based on the ideas of howard zinn

1389
00:54:04,549 --> 00:54:02,000
a deranged lunatic who hates the country

1390
00:54:06,069 --> 00:54:04,559
but whose textbook has sold two to three

1391
00:54:08,870 --> 00:54:06,079
million copies so

1392
00:54:10,069 --> 00:54:08,880
widely used in college campuses the

1393
00:54:12,309 --> 00:54:10,079
parents are not going to be very

1394
00:54:15,750 --> 00:54:12,319
impressed with that

1395
00:54:18,870 --> 00:54:15,760
and moreover the kids themselves

1396
00:54:20,470 --> 00:54:18,880
you know if i for me i'd feel inclined i

1397
00:54:21,910 --> 00:54:20,480
feel tempted to see what else is

1398
00:54:24,950 --> 00:54:21,920
available on the web

1399
00:54:28,150 --> 00:54:24,960
well on the web you can get for very

1400
00:54:30,870 --> 00:54:28,160
little money a hundred bucks a superb

1401
00:54:32,790 --> 00:54:30,880
course on american history by a

1402
00:54:34,630 --> 00:54:32,800
traditional professor one that really

1403
00:54:37,349 --> 00:54:34,640
teaches you something not just radical

1404
00:54:42,150 --> 00:54:39,190
and it seems to me that's going to be

1405
00:54:44,789 --> 00:54:42,160
very very subversive you know

1406
00:54:46,870 --> 00:54:44,799
once kids start to realize that there

1407
00:54:49,270 --> 00:54:46,880
are better alternatives

1408
00:54:49,910 --> 00:54:49,280
just staying at home using the web that

1409
00:54:53,030 --> 00:54:49,920
they'll

1410
00:54:56,630 --> 00:54:53,040
have a

1411
00:54:59,430 --> 00:54:56,640
an instructor who's first-rate uh

1412
00:55:01,109 --> 00:54:59,440
there's a real danger that the

1413
00:55:02,870 --> 00:55:01,119
enrollment in colleges

1414
00:55:04,630 --> 00:55:02,880
goes down yeah that's an interesting

1415
00:55:07,990 --> 00:55:04,640
observation i think is almost

1416
00:55:08,630 --> 00:55:08,000
guaranteed to to happen uh one last

1417
00:55:11,750 --> 00:55:08,640
question

1418
00:55:12,549 --> 00:55:11,760
you gave a recommendation for two

1419
00:55:14,150 --> 00:55:12,559
colleges

1420
00:55:15,670 --> 00:55:14,160
that students could go to if we're

1421
00:55:18,710 --> 00:55:15,680
talking about actually attending

1422
00:55:19,589 --> 00:55:18,720
college what about k-12 if you're a

1423
00:55:21,589 --> 00:55:19,599
parent

1424
00:55:23,190 --> 00:55:21,599
in light of the the state of key through

1425
00:55:27,030 --> 00:55:23,200
12 where do you send

1426
00:55:28,549 --> 00:55:27,040
your kid well there are two alternatives

1427
00:55:29,670 --> 00:55:28,559
one's home schooling if you have the

1428
00:55:32,549 --> 00:55:29,680
time for it

1429
00:55:33,190 --> 00:55:32,559
if the parents can manage to do it and

1430
00:55:37,430 --> 00:55:33,200
the other

1431
00:55:41,670 --> 00:55:37,440
is uh you know i have to confess that

1432
00:55:45,910 --> 00:55:44,230
there has always been one alternative

1433
00:55:49,270 --> 00:55:45,920
and that's as true

1434
00:55:51,750 --> 00:55:49,280
70 years ago as it is today

1435
00:55:53,589 --> 00:55:51,760
and that one alternative is catholic

1436
00:55:57,430 --> 00:55:53,599
schools

1437
00:56:00,829 --> 00:55:57,440
uh my father my family was

1438
00:56:04,549 --> 00:56:00,839
basically church of england i grew up in

1439
00:56:07,109 --> 00:56:04,559
england my father didn't hesitate

1440
00:56:09,589 --> 00:56:07,119
sending my sister to a catholic school

1441
00:56:10,069 --> 00:56:09,599
he knew she'd get a first-rate education

1442
00:56:13,349 --> 00:56:10,079
there

1443
00:56:17,190 --> 00:56:13,359
and she did and the

1444
00:56:19,270 --> 00:56:17,200
the sisters the nuns who taught her

1445
00:56:21,750 --> 00:56:19,280
doted on her though she was a protestant

1446
00:56:23,349 --> 00:56:21,760
she wasn't a catholic

1447
00:56:25,910 --> 00:56:23,359
and it worked very well and i think

1448
00:56:29,030 --> 00:56:25,920
that's still

1449
00:56:30,789 --> 00:56:29,040
i had

1450
00:56:33,349 --> 00:56:30,799
school-aged children i'd be looking at

1451
00:56:33,990 --> 00:56:33,359
that yeah well i kind of had a feeling

1452
00:56:35,829 --> 00:56:34,000
you might

1453
00:56:37,190 --> 00:56:35,839
suggest that um and it's certainly

1454
00:56:38,870 --> 00:56:37,200
something that i

1455
00:56:40,549 --> 00:56:38,880
had in mind but and i don't know how

1456
00:56:42,069 --> 00:56:40,559
much you follow this but i wonder

1457
00:56:44,309 --> 00:56:42,079
if we should be concerned about the

1458
00:56:46,549 --> 00:56:44,319
direction the catholic church is

1459
00:56:47,430 --> 00:56:46,559
taking as it it seems to embrace social

1460
00:56:50,470 --> 00:56:47,440
justice

1461
00:56:52,549 --> 00:56:50,480
yes yes i mean the the the

1462
00:56:54,150 --> 00:56:52,559
flaw in what i've just said is that

1463
00:56:57,750 --> 00:56:54,160
you've got to pick a catholic school

1464
00:57:00,470 --> 00:56:57,760
that's still a catholic school

1465
00:57:01,589 --> 00:57:00,480
and and unfortunately you have to be

1466
00:57:04,069 --> 00:57:01,599
able to afford it

1467
00:57:05,589 --> 00:57:04,079
um yeah i know you know the the the the

1468
00:57:08,390 --> 00:57:05,599
other option i guess you've got

1469
00:57:09,589 --> 00:57:08,400
is um am i getting the right is it uh

1470
00:57:13,109 --> 00:57:09,599
charter schools

1471
00:57:14,950 --> 00:57:13,119
and

1472
00:57:16,230 --> 00:57:14,960
yeah i would definitely look to charter

1473
00:57:19,510 --> 00:57:16,240
schools

1474
00:57:22,549 --> 00:57:19,520
but depends on the area you live in now

1475
00:57:25,589 --> 00:57:22,559
one thing i should mention before we uh

1476
00:57:27,829 --> 00:57:25,599
sign off is that something that

1477
00:57:28,789 --> 00:57:27,839
people don't seem to know i mean you

1478
00:57:31,829 --> 00:57:28,799
won't see it

1479
00:57:35,349 --> 00:57:31,839
commented on anywhere

1480
00:57:39,190 --> 00:57:35,359
and it's this that since

1481
00:57:42,309 --> 00:57:39,200
2011 as nine years ago

1482
00:57:47,190 --> 00:57:42,319
enrollment in higher education

1483
00:57:50,230 --> 00:57:47,200
is down from 20 and a half million

1484
00:57:50,870 --> 00:57:50,240
nine years ago to seventeen and a half

1485
00:57:53,270 --> 00:57:50,880
million

1486
00:57:54,309 --> 00:57:53,280
today that's why i never i never would

1487
00:57:57,349 --> 00:57:54,319
have guessed that

1488
00:57:58,390 --> 00:57:57,359
in the last 10 years were down about 15

1489
00:58:01,430 --> 00:57:58,400
percent

1490
00:58:02,870 --> 00:58:01,440
in higher education enrollment it's

1491
00:58:06,549 --> 00:58:02,880
actually worse than that

1492
00:58:07,750 --> 00:58:06,559
let me explain it's nine years in those

1493
00:58:11,829 --> 00:58:07,760
nine years

1494
00:58:17,910 --> 00:58:15,430
so uh actually

1495
00:58:18,870 --> 00:58:17,920
instead of the drop being from 20 and a

1496
00:58:24,870 --> 00:58:18,880
half

1497
00:58:25,589 --> 00:58:24,880
gone up to 21.5 to match the population

1498
00:58:27,589 --> 00:58:25,599
increase

1499
00:58:29,190 --> 00:58:27,599
so we're actually down from 21 and a

1500
00:58:32,950 --> 00:58:29,200
half to 17.5 so

1501
00:58:36,470 --> 00:58:32,960
that's 19 down

1502
00:58:39,510 --> 00:58:36,480
now you won't find this statistic

1503
00:58:40,789 --> 00:58:39,520
quoted anywhere in the in the national

1504
00:58:43,670 --> 00:58:40,799
press

1505
00:58:45,510 --> 00:58:43,680
people run away from it whenever anyone

1506
00:58:47,589 --> 00:58:45,520
mentions it

1507
00:58:49,270 --> 00:58:47,599
you hear people say oh well it's because

1508
00:58:50,230 --> 00:58:49,280
the population's getting older but

1509
00:58:52,309 --> 00:58:50,240
actually it's not true

1510
00:58:53,910 --> 00:58:52,319
i mean the population is getting older

1511
00:58:57,030 --> 00:58:53,920
but the cohort of the

1512
00:58:58,789 --> 00:58:57,040
uh you know the college age kids has not

1513
00:59:01,030 --> 00:58:58,799
changed very much recently

1514
00:59:02,950 --> 00:59:01,040
and certainly if it has changed it's

1515
00:59:05,030 --> 00:59:02,960
it's in the order of one percent or two

1516
00:59:08,309 --> 00:59:05,040
percent but not nineteen percent

1517
00:59:11,270 --> 00:59:08,319
now my point in saying this is this

1518
00:59:13,670 --> 00:59:11,280
parents are voting with their feet and

1519
00:59:16,950 --> 00:59:13,680
kids are voting at their feet

1520
00:59:22,549 --> 00:59:16,960
um the the thing is

1521
00:59:28,950 --> 00:59:26,069
the high visibility schools like harvard

1522
00:59:30,870 --> 00:59:28,960
yale university california

1523
00:59:32,789 --> 00:59:30,880
they can maintain their enrollment

1524
00:59:34,069 --> 00:59:32,799
because they had such large application

1525
00:59:36,950 --> 00:59:34,079
pools so they just did

1526
00:59:39,430 --> 00:59:36,960
dig deeper into their application pools

1527
00:59:41,829 --> 00:59:39,440
but the shortfall shows up heavily

1528
00:59:42,950 --> 00:59:41,839
at the bottom end so in the community

1529
00:59:46,150 --> 00:59:42,960
colleges it's

1530
00:59:49,270 --> 00:59:46,160
the the shortfall is much much greater

1531
00:59:52,549 --> 00:59:49,280
but this is really my point

1532
00:59:56,870 --> 00:59:52,559
suppose that 19 drop

1533
00:59:59,349 --> 00:59:56,880
gets up to 30 that's the point at which

1534
01:00:03,109 --> 00:59:59,359
you're going to see

1535
01:00:05,990 --> 01:00:03,119
fairly large number of schools closing

1536
01:00:08,870 --> 01:00:06,000
and that's when we'll see some kind of

1537
01:00:12,069 --> 01:00:08,880
reckoning i think

1538
01:00:12,470 --> 01:00:12,079
well that presupposes one thing and that

1539
01:00:14,710 --> 01:00:12,480
is

1540
01:00:15,510 --> 01:00:14,720
that the democrats don't take over both

1541
01:00:18,230 --> 01:00:15,520
houses

1542
01:00:19,030 --> 01:00:18,240
and the white house and make higher

1543
01:00:23,030 --> 01:00:19,040
education

1544
01:00:24,230 --> 01:00:23,040
free yes

1545
01:00:26,710 --> 01:00:24,240
because one thought i had as you were

1546
01:00:27,430 --> 01:00:26,720
saying is i think they're voting with

1547
01:00:28,630 --> 01:00:27,440
their feet

1548
01:00:30,230 --> 01:00:28,640
but one of the reasons they're voting

1549
01:00:31,109 --> 01:00:30,240
with their feet is it's gotten so damn

1550
01:00:33,270 --> 01:00:31,119
expensive

1551
01:00:34,710 --> 01:00:33,280
right yeah so you take that in and

1552
01:00:36,870 --> 01:00:34,720
perhaps

1553
01:00:39,670 --> 01:00:36,880
you've done a great job of explaining

1554
01:00:42,710 --> 01:00:39,680
why democrats want higher education

1555
01:00:45,430 --> 01:00:42,720
uh so badly to be free because that's

1556
01:00:47,750 --> 01:00:45,440
where everyone will be indoctrinated

1557
01:00:48,789 --> 01:00:47,760
now you have a point there yeah

1558
01:00:53,030 --> 01:00:48,799
definitely

1559
01:00:54,150 --> 01:00:53,040
uh the cost of making it free for

1560
01:00:57,349 --> 01:00:54,160
everybody would be

1561
01:01:00,710 --> 01:00:57,359
simply enormous i mean it would be a

1562
01:01:05,270 --> 01:01:00,720
it would bust the national budget uh

1563
01:01:07,270 --> 01:01:05,280
but um well it's scary that the federal

1564
01:01:07,910 --> 01:01:07,280
government is the one that holds all of

1565
01:01:09,910 --> 01:01:07,920
the debt

1566
01:01:11,430 --> 01:01:09,920
student loan debt to begin with you know

1567
01:01:12,470 --> 01:01:11,440
they took that over i believe that was

1568
01:01:14,630 --> 01:01:12,480
under obama

1569
01:01:16,630 --> 01:01:14,640
yeah so it's now in the hands of the

1570
01:01:19,109 --> 01:01:16,640
federal government to relieve that debt

1571
01:01:20,470 --> 01:01:19,119
so yeah they could that's something you

1572
01:01:21,109 --> 01:01:20,480
know you're going to hear some clamoring

1573
01:01:22,710 --> 01:01:21,119
for in

1574
01:01:24,710 --> 01:01:22,720
in the future at some point as it

1575
01:01:26,230 --> 01:01:24,720
reaches whatever help how many trillion